oath2order wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:30 am
Huojin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:08 am
Yeah, there's no benefit for Good (or Unaligned) in holding territory, except denying it to Evil and making their lives slightly easier. We need some kind of end-game content there for the other alignments to actually provide an incentive.
Just while we're on the topic of infusion more generally though - to the extent it's retained in its current form,
please can we make it a grindable thing? I'm sure some limits would have to be put in place, but it would make it at least a little more appealing if there was some long term benefit.
"Denying it to Evil" is literally what I've been doing for my faction in our current battle.
Building off my previous statement.
The Port Hope Good factions have recently been dealing with their home bases being infused upon. Which, okay, that's fair. Infusion wars are a thing.
Here's a conversation I had, global announcements edited out.
- You have sent 1 credits to magical energy along with the message: So like, what's your alls goal then? Is it just troll the good factions of Port Hope or are you trying to infuse the entire neighborhood? (2022-12-07 03:46:16).
- magical energy said, "Y'all should jump on NCG and complain about how dumb infusion is. It's not balanced, it's bad for the game, and it's purely up to players to decide how much of a jerk they want to be with it, which is dumb,
because there is basically no counter play." (2022-12-07 06:52:43).
- magical energy said, "I mean as it is, obviously with tweeking it could be more interesting and engaging, but right active infusion deserves a nerf, and we will keep infusion squares until it gets nerfed (though we won't keep infusing yours, we are just doing the rounds on different SHs)" (2022-12-07 06:53:54).
- magical energy said, "So yeah, until then, feel free to kill me, get some infusion back." (2022-12-07 06:54:37).
- Violet Ultra attacked magical energy with a Shocking Dart spell , killing her! (2022-12-07 08:24:07).
- Violet Ultra said, "Dunno if you wanted a tiger or not. I don't have the MP for it now anyway, actually. My shocking dart is not the most shocking, shockingly." (2022-12-07 08:29:08).
- Violet Ultra said, "Oh wait! I LOST a few MOR from that. That's not fair! ...Although your Lightspeaker isn't such a zealot, so maybe it'll work out okay anyway." (2022-12-07 08:32:25).
- magical energy said, "well to be fair, that wasn't supposed to happen, Violet Ultra just infused it to Moral freedom more, good job!" (2022-12-07 08:49:02).
- Violet Ultra said, "This location is infused and aligned to the forces of Moral Freedom to a depth of 413 points. By the smell of it, that wizhole I just tazed infused this place for 20 points, repeated 4 times in a row. ...I dunno much about the Golden Bold, but I think that might make it rather difficult to plant your stronghold here again anytime soon. Have you decided on which of the nearby restaurants or even bars you might want to open up at instead? Waitressing can't be any worse than returning items to shelves." (2022-12-07 08:49:14).
- magical energy said, "actually that infusion is 24 hours old, you read it from the bottom up" (2022-12-07 08:49:56).
- magical energy has joined your faction. (2022-12-07 08:50:37).
- magical energy said, "I joined your faction and started infusing to good. Shouldn't take long, cos active infusion is dumb broken!" (2022-12-07 08:52:19).
- You feel invigorated. You regain an extra Action Point. (2022-12-07 09:00:14).
- Violet Ultra said, "Now magical energy has joined your faction and infused the place 48 points to Good. I'm curious now; what's going on?" (2022-12-07 09:03:49).
- magical energy said, "i felt bad that you were infusing to moral freedom, and stopping them from putting their SH down" (2022-12-07 09:54:05).
- You say, "Oh so it's an infusion moment to make a point" (2022-12-07 13:13:24).
- You say, "Huh" (2022-12-07 13:13:26).
- You say, "I mean you're not *wrong*." (2022-12-07 13:15:57).
- You say, "I just have to find a place to post it" (2022-12-07 13:16:08).
- You say, "On NCG *and* the forums" (2022-12-07 13:16:40).
- You say, "Like it is a really good point, we likely would not have been able to fight back against the infusion if the pressure was kept up" (2022-12-07 13:18:13).
They're right, infusion is very heavily in favor for a Wizard build like the WIZHOLES faction uses. With the insane MP gain/regain, and Mystic Vigor, people are able to basically bulldoze infusion. I'm honestly surprised the entire Nexus hasn't been taken over by Moral Freedom Wizards.
I don't have a suggestion on what to fix, if anything can be fixed.